Where are the Amphibious Ships?
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Let me know if this has been addressed elsewhere, but in addition to amphibious warfare ships, what about the less glamourous merchant cargo ships? Can countries hire civilian commerical ships to move their military units to ports that they have already secured? This is common practice in reality so it should be in the game.
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Players are allowed to build or buy civilian converted carrier/transport ships but actual civilian ships are not currently used. A limitation of the game is that everything within the battalion must move at once and I’m not sure that any civilian ships would be able to move entire battalions. We also have a tendency to make transport ships a little more generic to guarantee a simple transport model. This is one of the areas we chose to not go overly detailed in simulating. We can’t be doing everything you know!
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You're right that it can take a lot longer to unload a civy ship if it isn't a ro-ro. Cargo capacity of ships isn't so much a function of cargo weight as it is cargo volume. However, given it would probably be a lot more difficult to come up with volume figures, for the sake of ease in game mechanics I can understand why you would use weight.
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Very few civillian cargo ships are capable of transporting military vehicles, I think.
You'd never be able to load, say, an M-1A1 battalion into a modern day liberty ship or dry bulk carrier, though those ships could probably carry light infantry and supplies.
RO/ROs are few and far between, and many already belong to the Merchant Marine or are available for callup by the government.
I know the US has about thirteen RO/ROs just sitting in ports (Guam, Diego Garcia, and I think Rota, Spain) around the world loaded with Army and Marine equipment and waiting for the call to deploy.
You'd never be able to load, say, an M-1A1 battalion into a modern day liberty ship or dry bulk carrier, though those ships could probably carry light infantry and supplies.
RO/ROs are few and far between, and many already belong to the Merchant Marine or are available for callup by the government.
I know the US has about thirteen RO/ROs just sitting in ports (Guam, Diego Garcia, and I think Rota, Spain) around the world loaded with Army and Marine equipment and waiting for the call to deploy.
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It is a tiny group of islands in the Indian Ocean & a former coaling station for the Royal Navy. The main island has an airfield, and there is a protected anchorage but no real port facilities. It isn't represented on the game map.Jan wrote:i can't locate it in game on the world map, am i blind?Hellfish6 wrote:(...) Diego Garcia(...)
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For many low tech regions, they function as that regions military sea transport.
You can load military units onto them at a sea facility (pier or port), and than use them to transport said units across the water .
You will often also need a sea facility on the other end to unload those units to,so capturing one during any invasion is a plus.
You can load military units onto them at a sea facility (pier or port), and than use them to transport said units across the water .
You will often also need a sea facility on the other end to unload those units to,so capturing one during any invasion is a plus.
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You dont laways need a port. Just set an engineer to bridging and you are able to unload anything into its hex. BTW the civilian ships should be included and so should the landing craft but you have to build them as a squadron. However It would be interesting how you would be albe to transfer units onto other ships from ships, unlessssss you make it so that you put the landing craft in the ships, then bring up the cargo units then tell them like on sr2010 on the right hand side (which says select transport) the load them into the squadron.
YEs All amphibious units should be albe to swim from a few hexes out, maybe to the lines that mark world market territory as a basis.
I will elabortate more if u want but u must ask (nicely!)
YEs All amphibious units should be albe to swim from a few hexes out, maybe to the lines that mark world market territory as a basis.
I will elabortate more if u want but u must ask (nicely!)