Europe and Balkans scenarios
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Europe and Balkans scenarios
I've noticed there are numerous misspellings of town/base names and some map upgrades missing for Balkans scenario and Balkans area of Europe scenario. If you are interested I can make a complete list of those and mail it.
Also, I’ve noticed that by scenario description of Balkans scenario Croatia should start allied to Bosnia and Serbia allied to Serb Republic. However, no one is allies to no one.
Also, I’ve noticed that by scenario description of Balkans scenario Croatia should start allied to Bosnia and Serbia allied to Serb Republic. However, no one is allies to no one.
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Well, Serbian Republic is basically made of Serbians that live in those parts of Bosnia. During war in Bosnia they were heavily supported by Serbia (arms, supplies, etc.). It's very unlikely they would go against each other and actually they are far more likely to have alliance then Croatia and Bosnia. Bosnia (in Balkans scenario) would consist of Muslims and Croats that live in those parts (Muslims are much more numerous there actually). During a period of war in Bosnia, Bosnian Croats and Muslims were openly in war with each other as well so there is still some bitterness among them.
Actually war in Bosnia was the only example of war where, at least for a certain period of time, 3 sides were openly in war with each other on the same area (free for all you might say).
I'll make you a list of those names as soon as I find time to sit down and make it. Actually there is a facility missing there too (airstrip near Split) and a part of the road (Zagreb-Karlovac-Zadar). There is highway going (at our present time) between Split and Zagreb so it's a bit unrealistic not to have those connected in game. I'll try to make those corrections (not many actually) in the map editor, make a screenshot of them and send them with name list.
What e-mail do I send it to?
Actually war in Bosnia was the only example of war where, at least for a certain period of time, 3 sides were openly in war with each other on the same area (free for all you might say).
I'll make you a list of those names as soon as I find time to sit down and make it. Actually there is a facility missing there too (airstrip near Split) and a part of the road (Zagreb-Karlovac-Zadar). There is highway going (at our present time) between Split and Zagreb so it's a bit unrealistic not to have those connected in game. I'll try to make those corrections (not many actually) in the map editor, make a screenshot of them and send them with name list.
What e-mail do I send it to?
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you can send the corrections to chris@battlegoat.com
As for Bosnia-Croatia alliance, that was done because there are Croatian peacekeeping troops in Bosnia today. We placed the Croatian troops there so gave the alliance to allow them to be withdrawn or increased. For Serbia and the Serb Republic, I would just expect them to have good starting civilian and diplomatic relations, but there has already been a request to rebalance those for that scenario. I'll keep these comments in mind when I get to that.
As for Bosnia-Croatia alliance, that was done because there are Croatian peacekeeping troops in Bosnia today. We placed the Croatian troops there so gave the alliance to allow them to be withdrawn or increased. For Serbia and the Serb Republic, I would just expect them to have good starting civilian and diplomatic relations, but there has already been a request to rebalance those for that scenario. I'll keep these comments in mind when I get to that.
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I would like to contribute a bit. There are a few facilities missing in Serbia, like Hydro Dam near Romanian border (X:181, Y:043) it is one of the largest in Europe and is divided between Serbia and Romania. Also Coal power plant at X:159 Y:039 is miss placed. It should be moved to the south to X: 158, Y:044. Military goods factory placed near town of Krushevac should be moved near town of Kragujevac (I forgot coordinates). Airfield near town of Kraljevo is not in use for some years now, but there should be airbase near Nis (at least one star).
Railway connection should b added between Belgrade (Serbia) and Podgorica (Montenegro).
One more thing, there are to much guns in this scenario.
Railway connection should b added between Belgrade (Serbia) and Podgorica (Montenegro).
One more thing, there are to much guns in this scenario.
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I will look at incorporating your suggestions, but have a few comments. Airbases are only one size. Adding one to Nis would increase their build capacity. I'll look at it but not sure I want to do that. Might go with an airstrip.
Your changes, these are suggestions for those countries in Europe map or Balkans/Adriatics map?
What do you mean "too much guns"? I don't understand the comment.
Your changes, these are suggestions for those countries in Europe map or Balkans/Adriatics map?
What do you mean "too much guns"? I don't understand the comment.
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It is Balkans/Adriatics map that I checked and that comments were for.Your changes, these are suggestions for those countries in Europe map or Balkans/Adriatics map?
It is "too many guns", sorry for butchering your language.What do you mean "too much guns"? I don't understand the comment.
I mean that there are way to many units for Serbia and Croatia(didn't check Albania), specialy T-55 tanks . A lot of those were sold during last and this year (in real life), for 800 euros per tank. Those huge conscript armies shrunk to third of its previous sizes.
Well, yes but I was thinking more like deleting airstrip near Kraljevo for, at least, airstrip near Nish.Adding one to Nis would increase their build capacity. I'll look at it but not sure I want to do that. Might go with an airstrip.
And regarding, Serbia - Serb Republic diplomatic realtions, well those people now days consider Belgrade for capital instead Sarajevo. When I read "People of Serb Republic disaproving towards Serbia" and "People of Serbia disaproving towards Serb Republic", it was funny.
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When playing Croatia in Balkans scenario MI-17 Hip transport helicopter that you get at the start seems to be bugged. It's supposed to have 192t cargo capacity but it can't transport units with much less tonnage - like garrisons. It's very possible there are more such cases where transports that you start with aren't working.
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