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Construction costs $221.
Research costs $306, only 4 techs being researched.
Defense costs $269, only 9/14 naval building.

Time to prepare for Plan B.

Plan B is fighting the minister every. single. day. by raising food, timber, oil, consumer goods domestic prices to 200% even though 'increase domestic prices' is turned on. Once I reach roughly $10k in funds the minister will drop domestic prices to 186%, then 174%, etc at the XX:45 time mark. And for those who say 'haha, just lock the industry' that means market sales prices are not changed so either you take a loss or your goods don't sell. Example: Consumer goods production is $36,753 and market price is $40,500. Minister sale price is $39,681 and that earns me a profit. If I lock the minster out I immediately lose money daily because due to daily market fluctuations selling prices must be adjusted, and adjusting a small price change of a large price on a tiny slider isn't very easy for a player. Try it sometime. $40k market cost, $39,600 sales, tiny slider. So I must fight the minister every day at XX:45 by raising domestic prices back up to 200% for a few days to get some cash stored up and to keep that cash stored.

While I should fight the minster for 100 days to get $100k stockpiled, I don't want to waste the time. So Plan B goes into effect once I have $20k in the bank and have reduced all spending to minimum. It's simple really. I export 100k metal, Ukraine used to export 100k metal but now they are my colony. The next highest producer is South Africa at 16k produced/3k used. Every other country imports it from us.... and the cost is $677 on the market. Metal is used to make consumer goods and industrial goods, which are then used to make consumer goods or buildings. As an example the US produces 12k of metal and consumes 81k. China produces 8k, uses 60k. Canada produces 5k, uses 12k. France, 1k/10k, Germany 5k/9k. Japan and Canada are the major exporters of consumer goods as well so if I turn off the metal supply NOBODY in the world can support their consumer goods production really. Especially if I lock down a 90 day purchase with South Africa and the other 'secondary' suppliers. I would purchase stockpiles from people as well to speed it all up, but that would require cash which would require fighting my own minister first to stockpile that cash. Later I must turn off Consumer and Industrial sales as well, since I will suddenly become the primary world seller and I want all of the world to run out - and fall into chaos from lack of goods. Plus those countries that have a positive economy solely on the sales of consumer goods will go bankrupt.

If you can't supply your people with Consumer goods your GDP/c drops and DAR drops. If you can't supply industrial goods, you can't build any facilities. And market price for metal is cheap, I can absorb that treasury loss easily - if I fight the domestic prices sliders every. darn. day. After a month the stockpiles of metal should be exhausted and I can start reducing the sales of consumer and industrial goods, further exacerbating their problems. If I can afford it....

This is also why I boosted my petroleum production so high, to try and offset the consumer goods sales embargo.

Soo... I am THE metal producer for the world and no longer selling, instead buying all metal available. Maybe I should conquer Malaysia to take over the world's rubber supply also...
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lol. I keep trying to catch up only to find new posts! I'm so far behind. haha. Looking good though! Keep em coming!
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January 1, 2028.

I have a new Multi-role air unit I feel is worth producing, the Pchela-10 .
And my lovely IFV-1 Crow, but since it is a worldwide unit and NOT amphibious I might make some for proxy wars but that's it.

I spent the last year building naval units and increasing naval/missile production facilities, roads, and some additional border bases with air fields/laser AA defense at them. And financially bailing out Romania and Ukraine every other day. The metal domination is going well although slowly of course, I have a stockpile of 184m metal, still buying 35k-1.3m metal/day from the market (which is all stockpiles) and nobody can buy even a third of what they require for their metal needs. This means that they are producing less consumer goods than needed and buying the rest so they can save on metal usage. But I noticed China had 20m in metal stockpiles and is always buying more - I started to try and buy their stockpile from them but it's HUGE and they want 4x the actual value of it in trades, plus they never actually sell any of it.... Stockpiles of metal are under 10 days worth for most of the major players, I may not have to stop consumer good sales (which use metal and industrial goods) and industrial goods (which use even more metal).

Why is China always buying metal when it has a 20m stockpile and uses 50k/day? Curious.

Let the metal embargo continue.
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January 2029.

I have the new BTR-II , I will give my colonies my old BTR-I and buyback their old BTR-94 . The BTR-II has 100 combat time and amphibious, the BTR-I is no match for it so i'm calling it an export version now. I LOVE units like this because I don't have to stop and resupply. Run out of fuel? No biggie, your guns still work for days!

Additionally I have crushed my primary enemy - Next is to see them driven before me, and to hear the lamentation of the women. They have zero metal and consumer goods stockpiled and their population is getting seriously pissed because they can't get the latest Ipad.

GDP/c $39k - down from $65k six months ago. Inflation is -19.8% and unemployment 35.7%, domestic approval rate is 7.9%. They are in bad bad bad shape.

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A few neighbors are a little mad too.

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Although honestly Japan is usually broken by no-trade power option. A broken Turkey helps protect my naval area, and the more NATO in chaos the better. Meanwhile I have 20 Naval Production, 20 Missile Production going full time. Additionally 40 Land Production making the new BTR-II and 6 Air Production making the new Pchela multi-role, my day is coming soon.

Metal Ore went to a high price of $839 from $777, now it is back down to $645. I've seen this before and can't figure it out.

November. Metal ore price has dropped to $590 and I have no construction, all research turned off, no units being made and every other day I am in the red. No ore purchases. Why am I completely broke?

Figured it out finally, I broke the market. Oil and Consumer Goods prices are in free fall because I broke the major customers but I can hold on a while longer though. Norway, Belgium, Greece, UK, Saudi Arabia, Finland, Hungary, Ireland, Denmark, Argentina, Belarus, Egypt, Australia collapse. Unemployment is now 89.4% in the USA.

Germany, Poland, Canada, Mexico, India, Pakistan, China, Brazil, Iraq, South Africa seem to be unaffected.
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September 2030, I am making money again. For about two months I was in the red, but I took control of petroleum and turned off 200 of the 323 gas fields, all the derricks, and I am now +$300/day from reduced facilities costs and production costs. As the largest exporter of petroleum I am sure that will have another effect on the world economy down the road. Saudi Arabia is now the largest exporter but it won't save them because markup of petroleum is only $7 above production costs and they are -$182k. US is down to GDP/c of 18k, Romania is -$35k and Ukraine is -$64k but I can't help them. I can't even do a war against collapsed neighbors because the preparedness would destroy me, although they do have military approval rates of about 50%. Lost regional elections all over the world.

Of course turning off facilities started making people unemployed, so they had less to spend and GDP/c started to drop as well as my daily income. I might turn metal sales back on as I don't see countries a trillion in the red being able to buy it anyhow. But it will be a new world afterwards if I can come back from my own imminent collapse! 342,250,816 metal stockpiled.

Embargo Off. I broke the world.

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That worked - for now. Petroleum facilities turned back on and the minister has control of it, easing into some land and naval production.

January, petroleum is down to a $6 markup from production cost. Taking control of that again, military production back off. February, petroleum down to $5 markup. Consumer goods are $900 markup and still dropping. I tried surviving off of internal sales earlier in this game and that didn't work, but I might try it again and seriously micromanage all the tiny costs daily. But that would mean dropping domestic prices which happens instantly, and waiting for the population to spend more and get wealthy which would NOT happen instantly. But the world is now a bleak place of my making. Heck, I might start a war anyhow - what's the worst that could happen, I go bankrupt?

Common sense kicked in, I can't even afford to make my new BTR-II infantry to attack with. And if I took out Belarus or Turkey and made them a colony it would be yet another country i'd have to pay for the rebuilding of and arm which is not an option atm.
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Interesting idea, not sure if it is a brainstorm or a brain fart. What if I used my spies to sabotage the rest of the ore mines in the world? It would take a few years and random as to what inside a hex is slightly damaged but if I was to keep a steady supply of metal for sale wouldn't that raise the world's prices for metal? Not sure enough to dare it and I've seen prices DROP when they should be going up. You'd think that low supply and high demand would increase prices but that isn't the case sometimes.

March 2029, oil markup is now $2. Consumer Goods markup is $700.

April, oil markup is $2 and Consumer goods $500. I am dipping into the red again. Kuwait has the highest world bank at $8k. At this point I have no idea what to do, I am going down financially with the rest of the world. All I can think of is to turn on minister control of everything and let it ride a few months, see what happens. US MAR @ 51.5%, DAR @ 7.9%, GDP/c 13,800, inflation -49%, unemployment 84.9%, and they are still losing 6k population per day. I really wish I could afford to grab some of that Uranium action and stockpile it, Canada alone has a daily surplus of $30k.

Here is a full world sitrep.

Agriculture - Cost $796 - Market $807
Rubber $496 $494
Timber $55 $56
Oil $139 $141
Coal $80 $81
Metal $452 $452
Uranium $95 $96
Power no-trade
Consumer $22,585 $23,033
Industry $17,103 $17,137
Military $42,173 $42,962

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Thinking about a war with Turkey. They have collapsed and it would secure the entrance to the Black Sea, afterwards i'll make them a colony and they can continue being a broken nation. I have no transit treaties to get there so it would be an air/naval war followed by my Nanyun transports dropping BTR-II on the outskirts of Istanbul. As long as I am cautious and go slow with my units it should be okay, I can't produce any new ones without a positive bank. Being broke throughout the war shouldn't matter too much as both of us will be broke either way, I have loads of petroleum, and military supplies aren't a problem. Only thing worrying me is that military spending seems to be the last thing to be paid so my troops might not get any money at all.

Could take out Japan but that would be a tough fight with their navy and air force, plus the world would act (in real life) if I did that. Same with UK or Europe although Bulgaria and Belarus are doable (except they have positive banks) and northern Europe is a possibility. Wherever I go, I have to assume 30 nations will be streaming units there to proxy fight against me and some will NOT be broke which means high morale and efficiency.

With most of the first world nations in meltdown it's a brand new world politically and Might Makes Right could make a comeback, that's fine for me as long as China doesn't get involved...

Took a hatchet to the social spending, environment and education dropped to 0 and healthcare cut by 50%. That gives me a daily profit for now, but the income will slowly drop over time. I suppose another option is to declare war on someone and scrap all of their facilities and sell the goods.

Got it, I know the perfect target for all the right reasons. Just need 3+ months to move forces around.
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October 2031.

Thanks to way2co0l I am staying with a positive cash flow still, but income has dropped to $4,802 from $5,800 and my metal stockpile won't last forever. Just found an exploit also but it's not possible to be fixed so I won't say what it is.

UN is delighted with me, still 0.0% subsidy. Shame I have to pay them membership dues.

Agriculture cost-$725 Market-$705
Rubber $3,365 $439
Timber $50 $48
Oil $127 $123
Coal $73 $70
Metal $434 $271 (188m stockpile left)
Uranium $86 $84
Power no-trade
Consumer $20,863 $20,109
Industrial $16,458 $14,962
Military $39,028 $37,508

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Naturally I send humanitarian aid workers to assist my neighbor.

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All my 9K62 with some S-400 Triumf scattered between them are parked a few tiles off of the NK/SK border with a line of BTR-II/T-90A in front of them. I have a single May AWACS to provide targeting data and a naval force of 20 Capital/Escort/Subs sitting in nearby Chinese waters. The best part is I don't have to supply any of these units and SK can't come after my units while inside the NK border. Plus it's a logical 'war', especially since South Korea collapsed. MAR of 51.3%, DAR of 7.9%, GDP/c down to $4,709, inflation -55.5%, unemployment at 92.9%!!! so it's plausible that some might be trying to cross the DMZ and into North Korea for a better life.

Unforeseen problem of course, but nothing I could have ever predicted. China and North Korea send troops - to help South Korea! Going to be stuck in this war a long long time now with a preparedness money drain but a little ironic that I retreat back to NK territory to resupply before going back into SK to kill NK and Chinese units. On the positive side I've seen barely any SK units, so being broke might make the AI keep their military from running around. I started a new game as SK before the attack to check their treaties and they had some embassies plus a few free trade agreements, that's it. They must have been busy diplomatically this game.

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I even see Japanese and American units running around inside NK. Insanity. Then I checked something and found further insanity.

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Nobody has provocation towards me and everybody loves me to where I can ally with anyone, even south korea. I think I broke the game. On a sidenote going completely broke isn't so bad actually. Production is reduced to demand (or just ministers doing that) and I am still funding all social programs, production, military expenditures with no missed payments. I have not tried building anything or turning research on. (verified, unit production and research will be missed payments)

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Well well... keep destroying the world's military? Or peace and try to dig myself out of the financial hole while plotting plot a new world order now that I am loved by all. Thinking peace so I can build more BTR-II and form a new Warsaw Pact.

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I also verified the settings to make sure they weren't somehow glitched/changed.

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I did find an old save on my work tablet from Friday, it's 2026 and just before the metal embargo. I produced naval, missiles then later land units as long as I could so probably until 2029 before I had to shut all the production down so 3 years of looking nice and pretty to the world. Add in a lot of government changes due to election failure and I guess everybody liking me is possible. But I don't see how South Korea could love me 3 months after I declare war on them.

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I accept peace with South Korea and send all the troops home. After putting them into reserve and butchering my military spending to $10m/$50m (just won a lot, MAR will stay high for a bit) I am still short $150ish per day. But now I have 60.6% subsidy which is good I guess, but more importantly I can take out bonds of $3,000 per day so I am saved!

Mid February was peace, by mid april I have a positive bank and can still borrow $2,500/day.

I have 90 land production and the BTR-II costs $562 with a 46 day build so that should equal $1,100/day for 46 days to get a full production run. But before I turn those on it's time to get some basing rights. Egypt and Panama of course for transit rights, South Africa and Brazil for resupply. Cuba just because. Afterwards Bulgaria, Belarus and Turkey look like nice targets but I don't think i'll have the cash to rebuild them, however taking over a country that has a positive cash flow right now might not be too bad to rebuild. Either way unless it's a fast war i'll be fighting 20 countries again in a proxy war.
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I think something broke with your diplo stuff. There's no way that one declaratio of war would me the whole world love you like that...something wrong I think...
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Before the production, diplomacy.

Embassy, criminal extradition (why not), missile defense, non-aggression pact, full transit rights:
Egypt, Panama, China, Mexico, Malaysia, Iran, Iraq, Portugal, Canada, India, Georgia Republic, Brazil. Gives me access to the canals, naval/air resupply scattered around, the cheap rubber producer happy with me, and a staging area to attack US, Turkey or other areas later on.

As before plus free trade, free flow of labor:
Iceland, Taiwan, Australia, Kuwait, Switzerland. They all have high GDP/c plus more supply points.

Full alliance and mutual defense:
Cuba (have to if Russia), Germany, South Africa, Pakistan. They are some of the very few that have positive cash flow and i'd like to have at least a few allies.

May 1 I turn production of 90 BTR-II on and restart building of the CVN and BBN. I even have enough cash to buy a few techs with goods production bonuses from Germany for 1/10th their cost. Now I begin the shell game... Take out a bond for $2,500 and pay off 3 bonds of $210 each. Credit rating and lending amount goes up, repeat, repeat, repeat until I can borrow $13k at a time and can't buy any more back. I know this is the last hope so I made 3 missile silos, did a last run of 21 Serb SLBM missiles, another 60 coal power plants, finished my ships and did as many land runs as I could which ended up with 600 BTR-II, another 30 S-400 Triumf and another 100 9K62. 2 more SDI sats bringing me to 8 total and 40% coverage.

I see one possible hope of rebooting the world market but it would be a lot of work - conquer some of the major players like US, Canada, Europe and annex them, then release them all at once. They should start with zero debt and a zero funds balance but that's a very last resort I think. Easier to just take over the world if I have already conquered them I would think. The problem with broke nations is they still produce and sell on the market - but can't buy from the market - so the market gets flooded and prices drop way below production costs so that those with a positive income can't stay afloat unless through purely domestic sales.

Here is where the old world ends and the new world begins. I finished one last batch of coal power plants, consumer goods, military goods, coal facilities produced so I should be shiny even if I take over a couple of countries.

Diplomacy.

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I can just break even with military set to almost nothing, no research, no unit production, no construction, and social services dropped to around $800 (1/3 of previous amount) and I can borrow $2,500 per day for now. One war and that's reset at zero plus the preparedness will send me deep into the negative.

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Worldwide cash on hand totals

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Domestic Approval Ratings

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GDP/c

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And Provocation from me turning on all those unit production facilities

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Only one thing to do really; embrace the new world order and try to get ahead of the pack, use it to my advantage.

I turn all social services to max, keep taxes at 45% (or else they have way too much money to spend and they suddenly want mass amounts of power), turn on all industries so there are lots of jobs, fund military to the maximum. These units I just made will probably be the last high tech units of any type produced in the world and it feels very apocalyptic. But my MAR, DAR and GDP/c should skyrocket while my provocation falls to nothing! This game has taken some very unexpected turns.

I have 200 BTR-II sitting outside of Belarus and with max military funding they have such nice green bars above them. I will rip through Belarus like a battleship through oil tankers, no need for tactics or supporting units. Unless things go sideways...
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Belarus has unit production of 6/0/0/1 and I have 92% casus belli. 3 production areas and their capital is along the way to the last one, usually if you take (or destroy) all the unit production and take their capital they give up quickly.

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Not this time. They forced me to take over most of the country which will hurt the industries afterwards, plus I was hoping to capture some decent units to pass around to the colonies. Zero losses. I did finally wise up and put all of my units into battlegroups so I can easily pull them out after I win, just leaving the captured units there to sort through. The war takes 10 days, I had their capital and production in 3. Colonize! I verify they have a barracks left and pass them some BTR-I for defense and introduce them to body armor, MRI, mag-lev trains, etc to boost their happiness/production/defense. War August 6-16th.

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Next. Bulgaria. Unit production of 4/0/0/0 and I have 95% casus belli. I want to only touch the western half so they can have an undamaged sea port in the east to help defend the Black Sea with. Of course my other colonies will attack wherever they want to though.

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My colonies did take the eastern half but I like their eagerness to help. 2 units lost due to a huge air attack from europe. Colonize, pass techs and BTR-I and patrol ships to them, fall back and repair my units and reserve the captured ones. War August 29-September 1st.

I have to relocate now, Europe is getting too hot and Turkey would be not be a quick fight. I see US and UK and all sorts of units running around there now and I don't want to fight them. So I target Azerbaijan next which should be free of the world's armies yet pull them there - too late - and then i'll find another target somewhere else. Azerbaijan has 1/0/0/0 production and I have 85% casus belli, taking them out will give me access to Iran who I have transit treaties with. Georgia I already have treaties with, so this will give me a moderately safe path into the middle east if I want.

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I'll post a diplomatic view and provocation snapshot after I declare war.
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This is such a bizarro world with how broken your world economy is.
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September 28, 2033.

Provocation. ( I have highest DAR now and GDP/c has jumped up to 24k)

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I declare war and no provocation change with anyone, but the message was 'unprovoked attack leads to war' when I declared. October 7 I make them a colony, no provocation change.

October 25, Baltics. Each of them have 1/0/0/0 and 0 dots of military. Should be an easy push up through all 3 of them. I have also made a 2nd battlegroup of 200 BTR-II to speed things up and in preparation for taking on larger countries where I will get bogged down and then have to fight units from all over the world. I have 90%ish casus belli with all of them for some reason, no provocation change to the world after I declare war on all 3 of them at once. Maybe since most of the world shot at me during the South Korea 'incident', now the game is giving me unprovoked attack retaliation against them all? Game has always been a little glitchy on if you declared war or if you were declared on, after you push the big red war button.

October 31, I have colonized all of the Baltics. No provocation changes, yes I broke the game. :cry:
I see one thing left to do then, start shipping units to mexico for a training exercise.

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Those unprovoked war declarations are excactly the reason the world loves you. Proxy wars FTW
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